Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. If something ever happens to my N55 I might consider this. Allows for less friction for a quicker revving engine at the cost of cylinder strength. I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. Jul 30, 2022. You are using an out of date browser. Hamburg, PA. Hamburg Automotive Swap Meet & Car Corral, Hamburg Field House, 127 S. Fourth St. (rear), Hamburg, PA. Held 7:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Over 100 indoor spaces and unlimited outdoor spaces plus car corral. I cannot imagine the level of reverse engineering to get everything to work. I thought about s55 firstly, but lots of guys said that it would be much harder to install and tuning will cost more too. Is it worth it? 2021+ Toyota Supra B58 A90 | 6 Port Top Mount Turbo Manifold SKU FR-TM-A90-B58-T4 Maximize Power and Spool with the 2021+ Toyota Supra B58 A90 6 Port Top Mount Turbo Manifold NEED HELP? VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. G82Model Year: 2021 + Previous Generations . Possible, but as others have said. com> Date: 2017-09-13 5:27:43 Message-ID: CABfawhkkZutU417RBw6+CRto=9P1G8ay0NS_OVxAhrpTL_o2hw mail ! I'd sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, there're about worth the same. Sponsor: Ontelaunee Region AACA. gmail ! However, if you're trying to run heavy E85 mixtures you'll probably cap this stage 1 Dorch HPFP well before 550whp. Regular price $49.95 View. On an e90, Everything is dearer. G30Model . Welcome to N54Tuning, your one stop shop for all your BMW Tuning and BMW Performance Modifications for the N54, N55, N20, N26, S55, B58/B48 and other BMW platforms! E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. Same with the flywheel as mentioned above. Don't miss our N55 400+hp guide or N55 engine problems article. I guess that's one way to keep the single turbo sound and getting S55 power levels - from what I've seen the B58 is a beast with a ton of tuning potential. Press J to jump to the feed. I'm surprised by the flywheel picture. Not worth it at all. Edit: Got my answer, thanks for your help! As we all know, the N54 is the german equivalent of the 2JZ. Ordinary person who buys bit by bit first either through dealer or outsourcing was something like $15k plus more like $20k. N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. Stage 2. BMW's N52 engine uses an intake designed to minimize noise rather than maximize airflow. N52 Intake Manifold Horsepower Gains: ~20hp (328i) and ~30-35hp (325i) Buy Here: N52 330i 3-Stage Intake Manifold. Despite the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo as compared to a single single-scroll turbo, a true twin turbo setup mirrors the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo. But I could be talking out my ass so please correct me if I'm wrong. It has a much higher spec interior, suspension and brakes. JavaScript is disabled. BMW N52 Performance Mods - Intake Upgrade. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Jump to Latest Follow . Guys spent 3 weeks for making complete result. A. Adalbert_77 292 Replies. That is impressive! Post Reply Thread Tools: Search this Thread 07-26-2020, 12:19 AM #1: hon2bmw . A lot of differences. Refreshments available. So even inner wheel arches on a chassis that looked identical from the outside is different between the models. Use a 5/64" (2mm) flat blade screwdriver to "push" the connector from the back of the socket housing. B58 In an E39 Is it possible? shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. May have been posted elsewhere, but is the actual limit of the stock automatic transmission on the 340i? $1,601.00. It'll require all wiring, DME, trans and all assoc computers steering, then all interior tech to match too such as cluster AC radio etc. The B58 has not bested the N54. No light on the dash no check engine it will be as if it came from the factory. The B58 is probably a much more natural transplant since that chassis already comes with it. i just want to know ask why no one will swap a b58b30 in it? VS - Wilwood Drag Brake Kit E90 E91 E92 E93 E82. Very interesting swap, so if I understand you right, you have a B58 swapped into your 320i xDrive? E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. Appreciate 0 Quote 04-23-2022, 05:40 PM #5: turnsignalslol. Depending on the specific model you're looking at, power output ranges from 302hp and 295lb-ft ll the way up to 365hp and 369lb-ft. VS - Stage 3 (E Series N54/N55) Rev 3 . Bimmerpost Model Selection. It was used in pretty much everything BMW offered, from small coupes up to large SUVs, which is a testament to how versatile this engine is. I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! Buy it. I have done this conversion on my own e91 320 lci since finding an lci e91 n54 proved very difficult and I find non lci rather dated in comparison. The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. I think better off just upgrading to M2 Comp but still cool to see. Stock B58 Flywheel wont fit, it'll rub against the starter. hello im fairly new to this car thing too.. i recently purchased my 428I about 7 months ago and im not going to lie i love my car and the n20 engine has been very reliable to me but to be honest i want to go on with my build and proceed with more power bc the n20 can only hold so much power before it blows up. Cool idea, but it will be very very expensive. I'm not sure if I missed it, but is the B58 closed deck? We have tons of content for the N55, and we're always adding more. I'd love to hear the nitty gritty details about getting ECU to play nice. You must log in or register to reply here. ! 08-12-2021, 12:16 PM. Bringing the BMW community together. Second Lieutenant . F40Model Year: . Its way better and stiffer than the f30, You're talking $10,000 on the swap alone! With a standalone engine management system that is B58 capable, sure. 5. Does anyone know if you can put a BMW B58 engine into a 2011-2013 BMW 335i coupe (N55 engine), Also curious if this would work for the 2007-2011 335i coupe. B58 turbo swap? The "Stuck-in-Comfort" mode issue should be now fixed for all cars. This motor is very easy to remove,,,plenty of room in the engine compartment,,,,,hopefully I can do the job in the aloud factory time limit of 16 hour,,,,,today of 6 hours of work,,,,I removed the engine and trans,,,removed the old engine,,,swapped over the new engine,,,,and swapped over the intake manifold,alternator,a/c compressor and starter Thread Tools: Search this Thread 01-05-2018, 06:57 AM #1: billabum. B58 swap out questions. There will be a problem with the driveshafts, from which they will fit, the transfer case itself also differs in the year of manufacture, despite the same model ACL35, perhaps something else will go crooked)). Very interested in seeing more info on this build. (1 review) Write a Review. according to leebmann24 , 89 kg for the 70 and 81 kg for the 50, great writewe need more these kind of write ups on the forum, The F20 was never equipped with an HP70 at the factory, unlike the F30 and the like. Except the M2 is actually a very nice looking car. The B58 has not bested the N54. M5. Held rain or shine 7 am to 2 pm. Sell your 320i and swap the plates. N55, S55, B58 none of them have dethroned the king, There are a few threads in this forum showing n54s with no meth just FBO e85 mix with inlets that are hitting over 500whp, S55 did, but its in a different price bracket lol, N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i, http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho1213066&page=4. It was a post on the M2 page on Facebook. So much so that I'd prefer it over the N55. n52 also had this. By the time you're done, you prolly could buy a 335 twice over. I'd rather the N55 between the two (N54 vs N55) I know you can do more mods and tuning with the N54, but reliability matters more to me personally. Drives: 2011 LCI 320i. Edit: (also asking this mostly because I'm curious about 328i and 335i differences excluding the engine). LOVED it right up until a guy nailed the front end and totaled it. Do you have any videos on youtube? Although cost is higher you'll be getting a new built transmission and not a used one. Does anyone know weather or not the B58 shares the same engine mounts as the M54B30? Just buy an M240i 6MT if you want a B58 in the sportiest manual chassis it came in. Anything is possible, just time and money. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. Why walk up a mountain when you dont have to? Can I swap to an S58? The BMS Elite is the highest quality B58 charge pipe upgrade on the market. How does it's Crank Hub do compared to the S55? I already got a tune but that did not really make a difference. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Fettled M135i EB AT - gone but not forgotten: N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. Rather than swap in a stock transmission I went ahead and did an HP70 swap out of a diesel 430d. N55 is my preferred engine in the E92 lineup. That's pretty cool. Of the eight BMWs I had, the M3 was my least favorite. Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it. Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. Mind you once you are done you will probably need preventative replacement parts on the engine that you have sourced second hand and that's several k more to bring it to 'new' condition. _____ Current: ///M2 LCi N55 - Mperf Carbon Kit - Mperf Exhaust - Bilstein B16 - Millway Camber . Location: Los Angeles, CA and Phoenix, AZ. Waste of time and money. Until tuning gets WAY further down the line, no one is going to be making big power on these motors without. Is the 335i and 328i E92 BMW different at all other than the engine it comes with? This is very cool, I've been looking at more information on B58 swaps because the N55 in my 435 isn't doing particularly great.. when it blows I really want to swap a B58 because I dislike the N55. N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications, https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh.php?t=1548060. Before we begin, I have an F31 Touring, which was only offered in the US with the N20/N26, B48 or N47. Whoever owns this car is my hero. 5. Now this is interesting. Jun 25, 2022 Hi. A 335i is more than just the engine. I am intrigued to see a DCT equipped S58. High capacity 5 1/2" deep front sump design with side kick outs for maximum oil capacity 1/2" thick CNC machined 6061 Billet Aluminum Flange and back plate Machined gasket surface to ensure no gasket leaks Rigid design like the OEM GM pan to ensure maximum strength and durability 2. The B58's smaller bore allows the engine to be shorter in overall length resulting in a stronger crankshaft, and the considerably longer stroke means longer connecting rods for reduced friction. JavaScript is disabled. You can't swap in a b58 into anything older due to how bmw changed communication lines/data bus lines. Join Date: Jun 2017 . I guess that is kinda what I'm asking. The second N52 mod we're discussing is a performance intake. G30Model Year: 2017 + . I feel like it would have been cheaper to get a Supra and then dump a few upgrades but very excited to see how this goes if you ever find more info on it! Its not worth it at all. I would reach out to them as a resource, they'll probably be ablee to provide some insight into the process, even if they worked with an S55 rather than a B58. 4. M4. I think SC_B5X was pushing around 650whp? Can pwg parts be swapped over to ewg engine, Cts turbo xdrive lowering spring set **new product**, New here! Stock turbos, the B58 is better. The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. G22Model Year: 2020 + . This thread was never updated, but was perhaps updated on social media elsewhere: so has anyone successfully swapped a B58 into an F30 which was previously an N20 ? E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. so decided to swap a B58 into it. Bimmerpost Model Selection. I have a 2003 530i and my dad and I have recently started looking at options for an upgrade. As a general rule, the rough lifespan of these BMW parts is as follows: Stock BMW, minimal aggressive driving Spark Plugs: 40,000 - 50,000 miles Ignition Coils: 50,000 - 65,000 miles Heavily modified BMW, significant aggressive driving Spark Plugs: 15,000 miles Ignition Coils: 20,000 - 25,000 miles No need for a b58. From $586.68/mo with View sample plans DCT Swap Type Quantity Add to Cart VS now officially offers swap services. Cannot found anything on the web. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Kinda what I 'm not sure if I missed it, but it will be very very.! 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