Upload or insert images from URL. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. I like the idea of using a second gun to diagnose. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. It's working fine now. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. Got back to the range today happened a little less (still did not get any factory ammo yet) After looking at the slide there is some ware marks at some points and thinking maybe this might be little to thick on the coating i could be wrong just a thought. A couple thought on the trigger- if you work on the sear engagement, proceed with caution. Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. No lube should be needed on RSA. The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. The slide goes into battery, but the primer hits look off. Pasted as rich text. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. buddy19 Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. It sounds more like a recoil/mag spring issue to me. Thank you! Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. Also do you have another 17 handy? Have you tried the field test for the RSA? It won't load a round. How are you sending the slide forward? I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. You cannot paste images directly. I think the increased slide weight is preventing the rsa from becoming fully compressed during the recoil cycle using the handloads. Nick29 Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. Just to make sure that it wasn't something trigger related I threw the old serrated trigger assembly back in and it does the same thing so I put the new smooth one back in. I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. I put some vibratite on the screw and am going to head to the range to test it in a few minutes. Just curious as to what Glock said. The problem is when the slide slams forward. Does anyone have any suggestions? May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. If the problem gets worse that would be another indicator. Display as a link instead, By All Rights Reserved. Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. I couldnt be happier. I have noticed that my G26 spring has been failing the recoil spring test.as of late. You can post now and register later. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. Do the RSA's need lube? FYI it's not the recoil spring. A couple weeks ago I installed a Timney Trigger with the red return spring. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! Have you tried it with the factory barrel? I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. One mag in particular was the worst. Did lots on it and got it running like 98%. They dont always fit perfectly right away. Put ammo in from the same box into my 92A1 and had no issues. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin. Have you made a change in ammo or reloading component lately? "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. What is the length of your round, bullet type, and powder/charge for the reload? I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. I still want a few more range trips before i start carrying it daily again but it seems we are on the right track. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. It may not display this or other websites correctly. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. To eliminate grip issues, have you had anyone else try to replicate the issue with a different box of ammo? -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. The Barbie dolls are mine. You can post now and register later. If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. Could be ammo related. If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. Im a little ahead of you on this path. JavaScript is disabled. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rochester-Personal-Defense-LLC/461665857219329, Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. Everything is right in the world of Glock again. JavaScript is disabled. Was this an issue before you installed the new connector? My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. I checked and it looks fine. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. Don't leave 10mm brass, someone here will be willing to pay cash for them. I knew it was wrong cause I have a factory G17 gen 3. Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. I will let everyone know what I find out. That's an easy way to figure out if you're just limp wristing or if it's a mechanical issue. I will look into buying some calipers. I am doing my Armorers class this coming week and planned to bring up the question. I am sure it has to do with some of the mods I've done. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Wondering if you ever got your issues resolved? I noticed this after a cleaning. The second came from the Instructor I took the course from. UPDATE! Haha.). Try some hot 124 or 147 factory rds and let me know if it still does it. What you describe sounds exactly like what's happening. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. My Glock trigger was/is the same as my Timney, 2.5#. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. The slide goes forward just fine if he doesn't hold back the trigger but when he holds back the trigger, the slide won't go fully forward. Thanks. moved the trigger spring up on the trigger bar. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. 17s and a 26 but done here, but the methods should be the same on the 20. I couldnt be happier. It definitely had the issue less today (not every mag) but its still doing it. Welcome to Glocks, Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. I'd take it to a gunsmith or a local shop with glock experience before it gets made worse. Thank you for that great info! My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. Does the gun run OK or is it failing to go into battery during live fire? Your link has been automatically embedded. I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. Is this RSA going to $hit already? When I press the slide release it loads just fine. the sig comment was really a non sequitur. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? Im thinking the mag springs are hanging up on something. Interesting. If all else fails I'll call Glock. I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Its light but mushy. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. But after doing some research, I shouldn't be surprised that a guy who got arrested for ripping off his LEO department, and even got his wife arrested for it too, would hier less than professional crew. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. What ammo? It's great. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. I gave it a little more oil than normal and seems to be getting better. Lord, make me fast and accurate. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. JavaScript is disabled. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. Great info! Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. I dont get it, youve been shooting a G34 for quite some time, then you cant get a Timney trigger to work so youre ready to try a Sig? I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. How much did you need to take off? I'm pretty sure it actually WAS only fired once before because the copper grease was still very apparent when I field stripped it. I had this with my first gen P80. Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. I've had two other people shoot it to make sure it wasn't a grip issue (one of the people was the class instructor so I hope his grip was good. Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. Just a thought. In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. 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